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March 04, 2006

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Fred Garber

I like this poem. An offer rejected! Have you read Ernesto Cardenal's "With Walker in Nicaragua"? It is a retelling of the true story of some US mercenaries trying to take over Central America 150 years ago. Some things do not change! There was also a film version of the story made in 1987. I liked the movie but it got lots of bad reviews.

Thomas Whigham

Hi Fred,

Oh, yeah, I am familiar with both Ernesto Cardenal and with Walker, who I think was a more interesting, more nuanced, character than Father Ernesto would care to admit. Walker was an abolitionist journalist in New Orleans (you gotta be a brave man or a fool to play that role in the early 1850s) and then went off to San Francisco where he gave a lot of color to the vigilante activities on the Barbary Coast. He later tried to create a "Republic" of Lower California and eventually acceded to Liberal Party requests in Nicaragua to bring in his band of adventurers to help win the day against the Conservatives. He did so, and then stayed, converting himself into president along the way. He retained some Liberal support even in that, but the one thing he didn't have going for him was support from the US State Dept. The American govt., in fact, was royally peeved at his activities, in part because they threatened some earlier diplomatic understandings with the British and in part because US business interests (Cornelius Vanderbilt's shipping company) had previously enjoyed some privileges from the Nicaraguan government that they no longer did under Walker. This, I think, is where Father Cardenal goes wrong, because he wants to paint Walker as emplematic of US imperialism, and it seems to me that you can't conflate the two. Walker ended up facing a Honduran firing squad a few years later, never quite realizing that he wasn't the "gray-eyed man of destiny" the newspapers said he was.

If you're interested in Cardenal, have you ever thought of reading his great predecessor, Ruben Dario (who has some poetic selections newly translated by Ivan Stavans they tell me)? Wonderful.

Now, as to my Arawak poem, on the issue of "rejected offers," it just now occurred to me that the poem has a certain similarity to a short piece published in the 1930s by, I think, the Brazilian poet Mario de Andrade in which he says (and I paraphrase): "It was raining on the day that Cabral discovered Brazil, and he put clothes upon the Indians; what a shame! Had it been sunny, they would have begged him to disrobe and enjoy the fresh air."

Ah, the power of the counterfactual!

best,

Thom Whigham

Fred Garber

Hi Thom,
Thank you for your extensive reply to my comments! And thank you for giving me the names of two poets whose work I plan to explore! I certainly believe that Padre Cardenal used some license with respect to history when writing his poem. Nevertheless, in my judgement, there is a feeling that is conveyed in both of your works. It is the description of a cultural innocence that some Europeans and later some North Americans approached Central and South America with. The shock that there was no need to civilize this other culture and the fear that one might "go native". I am not sure if I have made my point clearly or not. And again, I truly enjoyed your poem. I also note with great interest that you have authored a book on yerba mate. I am an espresso addict and have a healthy respect for yerba mate. Now if I just had a bombilla and a gourd full that hot liguid!

thomas whigham

Hi Fred,

Like me, I think you're interested in these questions of culture contact and how one defines "innocence" and "civilization." I think, for the most part, that the tales of those who ended up living such experiences in the flesh have had their accounts subsumed by a plethora of "Noble Savage" interpretations. This has slighted both the Europeans and the Native Americans, because it imposes an inaccurate and windy spiritualism a la "Dancing with Wolves" that hides more than it reveals. Now, understanding the character of the "Other" was a fundamental concern from the beginning; Spanish jurists and theologians spent decades trying to decide what portion of Indian character really counted as "human" or "civilized" (see Anthony Pagden's study, The Fall of Natural Man, on this theme. Absolutely brilliant).

I would argue, though, that these efforts had little to do with reality. Let me illustrate with a couple of stories from this period of early contact. In Bernal Diaz's Conquest of New Spain we see Cortes and his soldiers defeat a sizable band of Mayan warriors near Cozumel. In suing for peace afterwards, the Indians bring forward a fellow in feathers and heavily tatooed. This was Geronimo de Aguilar, a Spaniard who had been shipwrecked along the Yucatan shore some years before and who had learned the Mayan language while a captive. Aguilar subsequently served Cortes as translator as the Spaniards moved north against the Aztecs. However, what is often missed in the text was the presence of a second Spanish castaway, whose name I forget. This fellow sent word to say that he had married and was well-thought of by the local Mayas. He did not choose to leave his children and the happy life he was leading to become a footsoldier in Cortes's army, and, with certain expressions of regret, he salutes his countrymen and wishes them luck. It is interesting to note, I think, that neither Bernal Diaz nor any of the other Spaniards seem to judge him harshly for this decision. On the contrary, they seem to treat his choice with a degree of sympathy, as being a common sense answer to a dilemma not of his own making.

There are also the memoirs of Alvar Nunez Cabeza de Vaca, who like Aguilar and the other guy, was a castaway, in this case, among the Indians of Florida. He spent around a decade wandering westward through the Floridas, Mississippi and Texas before re-encountering a party of his countrymen some miles north of Mexico City. Now, Cabeza de Vaca chose to rejoin his people but he never lost the sympathy for the Indians. In fact, his pro-Indian position got him in trouble later when he espoused Indian interests as interim-governor of Paraguay in South America. His countrymen sent him back to Spain in chains for having sold out the Christians in favor of the savages. But he makes it clear in his memoirs, which are fascinating reading, that his policies were not only humane (and therefore by definition Christian) and also appropriate to the situation.

What these two anecdotes illustrate, I think, is that Indian society had plenty of advantages on their own merits and worthy of respect in those terms. It wasn't so much that the Indians served as a conduit to open up the Spaniards' own spirituality (this wasn't Lost Horizon, after all), it was that the Indians deserved to be respected in Indian terms.

I'm starting to lose my train of thought, but perhaps you can see what I'm getting at with all this.

Incidentally, if you'll forgive my beating my own drum here, if you're interested in yerba mate, may I recommend the appropriate chapter in my book, The Politics of River Trade, which you can find in your local university library, I'm sure.

Thanks for your thoughts and thanks also for your patience,

Thom

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